discuss Musk Claims Public Sector Workers, Not Stalin, Hitler, Mao - Murdered Millions

[Jason]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...1&cvid=0e4b64a20e6c471c94515c456e7d982a&ei=14

OK, now what will be the MAGA explanation for this, and there's always one, of course.

 

[Reelz]

Wow! What a statement from the richest man in the world. That is quite a stretch! the crowd might want to spin these as an attack on the government but there seems to be an element of truth in what Mr Musk said. We all know there are a lot of atrocities linked to the public sector workers. Do you have an objective to this?

 

[Shortie]

Wow! I have seen too often Musk doing things out of the blue and even saying things that have given him some bad press but this has got to be the lowest I have seen so far.

We are in the year 2025 and Hitler is being defended, others are being blamed for something it is clear they did not do and we will have people who will defend him, including those in office at the moment.

 

[Jason]

Wow! I have seen too often Musk doing things out of the blue and even saying things that have given him some bad press but this has got to be the lowest I have seen so far.

We are in the year 2025 and Hitler is being defended, others are being blamed for something it is clear they did not do and we will have people who will defend him, including those in office at the moment.

Never mind the teenage boy (Musk). We all go thru phases like that.

 

[Pete Griffin]

Musk is going to be the downfall of Trump at this rate. I can see Trump cutting him out soon. And if not we have to wonder what hold does he have over him? Consider, this is a racist South African who has been given carte blanche to cut up government and public services. He must have some dirt on the fat orange tool in the White House...

 

[Jason]

Musk is going to be the downfall of Trump at this rate. I can see Trump cutting him out soon. And if not we have to wonder what hold does he have over him? Consider, this is a racist South African who has been given carte blanche to cut up government and public services. He must have some dirt on the fat orange tool in the White House...

Musk did vote for Obama and Hillary at one time.

 

[Pete Griffin]

Musk did vote for Obama and Hillary at one time.

The owner of an electric car company not voting for the party of progressive politics speaks volumes about his ambitions and intentions. Trump saying "drill, baby, drill" and Elon is buying into it - despite having the biggest anti-fossil-fuel car company on the planet.

 

[Harsh World]

Although appalling to say, he has a point. And, that point parallels with how the previous Administration ran (more on that later).

Hitler didn't force everyone into the gas chambers, the public sector workers or those directly under his command did. That isn't to say he didn't issue the order, but public sector workers and the SS complied and carried out those orders.

So, I would say that Hitler did kill them, but there are a lot of guilty people who didn't follow their conscious to not take part in it or to revolt against the atrocities either.

We can take this analogy to present history, too. Governors didn't force you to stay home during C-19 lockdowns, the public sector workers, or police, made you go back to your residence. So, do we blame the governors for their overreach of power, the complicit public sector, or both? I mean, the public sector workers all swore an Oath to the Constitution, so they are just as guilty as the governors for carrying out such orders. Also, Biden didn't fire you from your job if you didn't get the vaccine, public sector workers following the vaccine mandates fired you from your job instead of not complying with such ridiculousness.

The blame really falls on the one that issues such orders, but those following orders are just as bad.

 

[Pete Griffin]

I can't argue with your logic. My brother-in-law is a cop and during COVID he forced people, against their will, to stay in doors. This was for the public good - but the argument would be that the SS and others who undertook the greatest crime against humanity also believed they were acting in the public good. What's the phrase about the only thing needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing? Something along those lines. This wasn't 'doing nothing' it was complicity. But can we say for certain that our moral objections to genocide would override our need to survive? Because surely those who refused the Fuhrer's orders would pay for it with their lives.

 

[Harsh World]

Because surely those who refused the Fuhrer's orders would pay for it with their lives.

Good point.

And to turn back to the vaccine, to some, it was their life. If they lost their job, they could have lost their house or not been able to eat, and ultimately end up on the street. And if those that didn't enforce the vaccine? Well, those in the military would surely be under UCMJ and either be kicked out or thrown in the brig for ignoring such orders.

Obviously, the loss of life is much more terrible than what happened during C-19 and lockdowns. But, there are strong parallels here that are just as dangerous. If a government worker were to carry out a mandate without asking questions, would that same government worker be capable of repeating history if told to do so?

 

[Jason]

The SS was clearly brainwashed into associating Jews with communism, and then you had the huge neighbor to the east, The Soviet Union wanting world revolution.

 

[Pete Griffin]

The SS was clearly brainwashed-

I'll stop you there. That's an excuse bandied about by Nazi apologists. "Oh, they didn't know it was wrong" or "Oh, they were indoctrinated into committing these crimes." That's bullshit. They knew what they were doing, They knew it was wrong. The sanctity of human life existed in 1940. Please don't trivialise the almost complete destruction of an entire population by excusing the actions of their murderers.

 

[Jason]

I'll stop you there. That's an excuse bandied about by Nazi apologists. "Oh, they didn't know it was wrong" or "Oh, they were indoctrinated into committing these crimes." That's bullshit. They knew what they were doing, They knew it was wrong. The sanctity of human life existed in 1940. Please don't trivialise the almost complete destruction of an entire population by excusing the actions of their murderers.

Yeah, I know what you mean. When do the excuses stop? I mean, what was the excuse for Ted Bundy or Jeffery Dahmer?